DeceptiviewFilm said:
I guess I am the only one who really enjoyed the finale...
True there were some moments when I was like WHAT???
I mean it just seems sooo final to launch ALL your ships into the sun without a contingency...no defenses at all....hmm
and Cavil
I enjoyed it also. I am doing my best to not reply to all the haters. Everyone has an opinion. Some people just expected way too much in my estimation.
Of course it could have been better, but it worked well for me.
His hair had been growing out since he turned to politics and then he had a case of helmet hair.
I had a few issues with the ending. The Cavel suicide wasn't one of them though. He seemed like exactly the sort of character that would rather kill himself than give anyone else the satisfaction of killing/capturing him.
I'm kind of blown away at the full on hate the finale is receiving from a lot of quarters. Most of the criticism I'm seeing relates to the idea that there was a higher power, or God, driving the fleet. If this was suddenly revealed to be the case in the very last ep, I could see and possibly agree with all this frustration. However, the writers have been setting up the God angle from the very beginning. Roslin was having visions back in Season 1 (leading them to the Arrow of Apollo). You could argue that was a result of the Chamalla extract she was taking, but shamans and healers from time immemorial have been using drugs as a pathway to what they viewed as the divine, so that doesn't really deny the possibility of it being God driven.
If you hate the path the show takes because you have opposing theological views, you're just robbing yourself. Take it for what it is, well-written (mostly) and well-acted television drama, rather than as an excoriation of your personal beliefs. Don't get me wrong, I didn't think it was perfect by any means. Too many plot threads were tied up too abruptly, and there were a few too many convenient Deus Ex Machina moments for my taste (especially the dead hand falling on the nuke button). But all in all, I felt they addressed all the mysteries they had set up over the previous seasons, and gave these people a chance at peace at last.
BilliamCC said:
I'm kind of blown away at the full on hate the finale is receiving from a lot of quarters. Most of the criticism I'm seeing relates to the idea that there was a higher power, or God, driving the fleet. If this was suddenly revealed to be the case in the very last ep, I could see and possibly agree with all this frustration. However, the writers have been setting up the God angle from the very beginning. Roslin was having visions back in Season 1 (leading them to the Arrow of Apollo). You could argue that was a result of the Chamalla extract she was taking, but shamans and healers from time immemorial have been using drugs as a pathway to what they viewed as the divine, so that doesn't really deny the possibility of it being God driven.
If you hate the path the show takes because you have opposing theological views, you're just robbing yourself. Take it for what it is, well-written (mostly) and well-acted television drama, rather than as an excoriation of your personal beliefs. Don't get me wrong, I didn't think it was perfect by any means. Too many plot threads were tied up too abruptly, and there were a few too many convenient Deus Ex Machina moments for my taste (especially the dead hand falling on the nuke button). But all in all, I felt they addressed all the mysteries they had set up over the previous seasons, and gave these people a chance at peace at last.
You can use God as a plot device and still create a quality script. This was not one of those instances. There use of God was lazy.
It's that "lazy" that I'm still not getting. What would be the hard or difficult work that would have been necessary to punch up the God plot device?
Should they have just done ten reps of push-ups or something? I don't understand why making use of an element that has been signposted the entire series just gets blithely labelled "lazy" without any further detail. What were they supposed to do that they didn't?
Toku666 said:
It's that "lazy" that I'm still not getting. What would be the hard or difficult work that would have been necessary to punch up the God plot device?
Should they have just done ten reps of push-ups or something? I don't understand why making use of an element that has been signposted the entire series just gets blithely labelled "lazy" without any further detail. What were they supposed to do that they didn't?
I'm with Toku666. Just because you think explaining some of the more mysterious elements as the hand of God is lazy, doesn't make it lazy. Lazy writing would have been relying entirely on science and technology the entire series, and then suddenly saying in the last ep, "All that stuff they went through? God! Surprise!" But Toku's right, they've been giving us the spiritual aspect from the beginning. It sounds like those who object to the spiritual explanations object to the use of God as a plot device just out of principle, rather than objecting because of bad writing.
You can make the argument that the ease with which these people spread out and abandoned technology was a little pat, and I might agree with you somewhat. But you also have to consider it from the character's perspective. Four years, constantly on the run, never sure if you're going to have enough fuel or food, always looking over your shoulder. Anything would be a welcome respite from that, including going back to a more agrarian way of life. And just because they abandoned technology by sending the ships into the sun doesn't mean they didn't keep medical supplies or tools needed for farming.
I liked it, and thought it made up for some pretty weak stuff during the last ten episodes
Oh BSG, you were never the character driven drama you thought you were. Your attempts to delve into political intrigue were inept, hamfisted, and were abandoned whenever the plot required it. But you did some stuff pretty good and should be praised for it.
pariah002
Yugoslavia
July 2003
MAR 25, 2009 01:09 PM