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pariah002

pariah002

Yugoslavia
July 2003

MAR 25, 2009 01:09 PM

DeceptiviewFilm said:
I guess I am the only one who really enjoyed the finale...

True there were some moments when I was like WHAT???

I mean it just seems sooo final to launch ALL your ships into the sun without a contingency...no defenses at all....hmm

and Cavil



I enjoyed it also. I am doing my best to not reply to all the haters. Everyone has an opinion. Some people just expected way too much in my estimation.
Of course it could have been better, but it worked well for me.

labelleariel

labelleariel

Lafayette, IN
October 2006

MAR 25, 2009 04:10 PM

i loved it. (the finale) and lmao at the misspelling of the names.

ardour

ardour

Ottawa, ON
March 2006

MAR 25, 2009 08:16 PM

So what was up with Apollo's hair?

GS2099

GS2099

Fayetteville, AR
September 2005

MAR 25, 2009 08:39 PM

MrCrisp said:

FearTheReaper said:
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa



double post?



Badumcha!

plastictrees

plastictrees

Canada
February 2005

MAR 25, 2009 09:03 PM

ardour said:
So what was up with Apollo's hair?



His hair had been growing out since he turned to politics and then he had a case of helmet hair.

I had a few issues with the ending. The Cavel suicide wasn't one of them though. He seemed like exactly the sort of character that would rather kill himself than give anyone else the satisfaction of killing/capturing him.

toothpickmoe

toothpickmoe

Los Angeles, CA
May 2004

MAR 25, 2009 09:27 PM

I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked.

BilliamCC

BilliamCC

Dallas, TX
July 2004

MAR 26, 2009 11:19 AM

I'm kind of blown away at the full on hate the finale is receiving from a lot of quarters. Most of the criticism I'm seeing relates to the idea that there was a higher power, or God, driving the fleet. If this was suddenly revealed to be the case in the very last ep, I could see and possibly agree with all this frustration. However, the writers have been setting up the God angle from the very beginning. Roslin was having visions back in Season 1 (leading them to the Arrow of Apollo). You could argue that was a result of the Chamalla extract she was taking, but shamans and healers from time immemorial have been using drugs as a pathway to what they viewed as the divine, so that doesn't really deny the possibility of it being God driven.

If you hate the path the show takes because you have opposing theological views, you're just robbing yourself. Take it for what it is, well-written (mostly) and well-acted television drama, rather than as an excoriation of your personal beliefs. Don't get me wrong, I didn't think it was perfect by any means. Too many plot threads were tied up too abruptly, and there were a few too many convenient Deus Ex Machina moments for my taste (especially the dead hand falling on the nuke button). But all in all, I felt they addressed all the mysteries they had set up over the previous seasons, and gave these people a chance at peace at last.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

MAR 26, 2009 01:22 PM

BilliamCC said:
I'm kind of blown away at the full on hate the finale is receiving from a lot of quarters. Most of the criticism I'm seeing relates to the idea that there was a higher power, or God, driving the fleet. If this was suddenly revealed to be the case in the very last ep, I could see and possibly agree with all this frustration. However, the writers have been setting up the God angle from the very beginning. Roslin was having visions back in Season 1 (leading them to the Arrow of Apollo). You could argue that was a result of the Chamalla extract she was taking, but shamans and healers from time immemorial have been using drugs as a pathway to what they viewed as the divine, so that doesn't really deny the possibility of it being God driven.

If you hate the path the show takes because you have opposing theological views, you're just robbing yourself. Take it for what it is, well-written (mostly) and well-acted television drama, rather than as an excoriation of your personal beliefs. Don't get me wrong, I didn't think it was perfect by any means. Too many plot threads were tied up too abruptly, and there were a few too many convenient Deus Ex Machina moments for my taste (especially the dead hand falling on the nuke button). But all in all, I felt they addressed all the mysteries they had set up over the previous seasons, and gave these people a chance at peace at last.



You can use God as a plot device and still create a quality script. This was not one of those instances. There use of God was lazy.

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

MAR 26, 2009 01:52 PM

FearTheReaper said:

You can use God as a plot device and still create a quality script. This was not one of those instances. There use of God was lazy.



PROXIMITY ALERT!

Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

MAR 27, 2009 06:17 AM

It's that "lazy" that I'm still not getting. What would be the hard or difficult work that would have been necessary to punch up the God plot device?

Should they have just done ten reps of push-ups or something? I don't understand why making use of an element that has been signposted the entire series just gets blithely labelled "lazy" without any further detail. What were they supposed to do that they didn't?

BilliamCC

BilliamCC

Dallas, TX
July 2004

MAR 27, 2009 09:30 AM

Toku666 said:
It's that "lazy" that I'm still not getting. What would be the hard or difficult work that would have been necessary to punch up the God plot device?

Should they have just done ten reps of push-ups or something? I don't understand why making use of an element that has been signposted the entire series just gets blithely labelled "lazy" without any further detail. What were they supposed to do that they didn't?



I'm with Toku666. Just because you think explaining some of the more mysterious elements as the hand of God is lazy, doesn't make it lazy. Lazy writing would have been relying entirely on science and technology the entire series, and then suddenly saying in the last ep, "All that stuff they went through? God! Surprise!" But Toku's right, they've been giving us the spiritual aspect from the beginning. It sounds like those who object to the spiritual explanations object to the use of God as a plot device just out of principle, rather than objecting because of bad writing.

You can make the argument that the ease with which these people spread out and abandoned technology was a little pat, and I might agree with you somewhat. But you also have to consider it from the character's perspective. Four years, constantly on the run, never sure if you're going to have enough fuel or food, always looking over your shoulder. Anything would be a welcome respite from that, including going back to a more agrarian way of life. And just because they abandoned technology by sending the ships into the sun doesn't mean they didn't keep medical supplies or tools needed for farming.

BilliamCC

BilliamCC

Dallas, TX
July 2004

MAR 27, 2009 11:18 AM

Dizzy

Dizzy

Los Angeles, CA
January 2004

MAR 27, 2009 05:04 PM

what a difference from ep 1 of the mini series to the final ep. They tore that Battlestar a new one.

tuba_man

tuba_man

Twentynine Palms, CA
March 2005

MAR 29, 2009 09:19 PM

Souredsoul said:
Wanna watch a great ending to a show.. Watch Farscape the Peacekeeper Wars.



YES YES YES and Y.E.S. YES. I loved that entire series. Za'an's death was the first time any entertainment made me cry.

dholokov

dholokov

Toronto, ON
April 2003

MAR 29, 2009 10:55 PM

I liked it, and thought it made up for some pretty weak stuff during the last ten episodes

Oh BSG, you were never the character driven drama you thought you were. Your attempts to delve into political intrigue were inept, hamfisted, and were abandoned whenever the plot required it. But you did some stuff pretty good and should be praised for it.

Ward_Darkstone

Ward_Darkstone

I'm lost
March 2009

MAR 30, 2009 11:36 PM

McKenneth said:
In the immortal words of Bill Lumberg, "Yeah... I'm gonna have to go ahead and... disagree with you there."



ditto i think it worked very well

to be fair IF they had gotten green lit for season 5 alot of this might have gone differently

that last shot of the fleet flying into the sun with the original theme song playing over it...all o could say was AWESOME

now for extra points what did the angels mean I know bet some ppl didn't get it though

BilliamCC

BilliamCC

Dallas, TX
July 2004

MAR 31, 2009 08:37 AM

Ward_darkstone said:
now for extra points what did the angels mean I know bet some ppl didn't get it though



What part are you talking about? At the very end when they were in Times Square?

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