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StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

MAR 18, 2009 02:23 PM

Have you heard the Sci Fi network is changing their name to this in an attempt to make them seem hipper and less geeky.



Dudes... are you fucking kidding me? Do you really think you're going to fool people that way? I mean... it's still pronounced the same way!


Not that I'm a huge fan of the network or their programming (other than reruns of Twilight Zone and horror anthology shows like that) or that I feel that there's ANYthing wrong with having a geeky fanbase but still. This is a "rebranding" that is beyond worthless.

cabaretic

cabaretic

Birmingham, AL
March 2005

MAR 18, 2009 02:31 PM

I think what I'd rather change is the social stigma around science fiction. It has application to everyone, beyond just geeks. That's the real challenge here, not just in building more of a viewership by any means necessary.

In truth, I can stand Sci Fi programming in limited doses because the shows it offers often recycles the same themes and plots, but certainly they don't have to. Why not improve the quality of the shows instead of feeling compelled to resort to a shallow, transparent ploy?

CobraR

CobraR

Charleston, TN
August 2006

MAR 18, 2009 02:49 PM

The only thing I want them to change is the shit programming they air on a regular basis. I'm so sick of seeing shotty CGI raptors (or any Dinosaur, for that matter). I don't really care for their psuedo paranormal detectives either. Who, for the life of them, can't detect paranormal activity. anywhere.

About 99% of the content they air sucks ass. Occasionally they'll pick a decent movie to present, or decide to rerun good shows from years gone by, but they tend to just pull stupid, B grade moves as often as they can.

Edit: I will admit that they have come up with some good "original" that I have liked. Stargate SG1 was one of my fave shows and I was starting to get into Atlantis too, until they killed it.

ChocolateJesus

ChocolateJesus

I'm lost
January 2005

MAR 18, 2009 02:50 PM

I've got to be the only person on the planet who likes the new logo and name. I believe that the main reasoning is that if they branch out into other forms of media, they wanted to have their own identity other than "Sci-Fi Channel", or "Sci-Fi", as both seem pretty generic.

StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

MAR 18, 2009 02:56 PM

CobraR said:
Edit: I will admit that they have come up with some good "original" that I have liked. Stargate SG1 was one of my fave shows and I was starting to get into Atlantis too, until they killed it.



That started out on Fox, I believe.

CobraR

CobraR

Charleston, TN
August 2006

MAR 18, 2009 02:59 PM

StarBelliedBoy said:

CobraR said:
Edit: I will admit that they have come up with some good "original" that I have liked. Stargate SG1 was one of my fave shows and I was starting to get into Atlantis too, until they killed it.



That started out on Fox, I believe.



Correct, but Fox didn't have the niche fanbase to keep it on air. Sci-Fi picked it up and ran with the original series for 10 seasons, before coming up with Atlantis on their own.

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

MAR 18, 2009 03:10 PM

ChocolateJesus said:
I've got to be the only person on the planet who likes the new logo and name. I believe that the main reasoning is that if they branch out into other forms of media, they wanted to have their own identity other than "Sci-Fi Channel", or "Sci-Fi", as both seem pretty generic.



They've been branching out for a while now, and all of the new branches suck. Pro wrestling and ghost hunter bull crap? No thanks.

CobraR

CobraR

Charleston, TN
August 2006

MAR 18, 2009 03:46 PM

MrStitches said:

ChocolateJesus said:
I've got to be the only person on the planet who likes the new logo and name. I believe that the main reasoning is that if they branch out into other forms of media, they wanted to have their own identity other than "Sci-Fi Channel", or "Sci-Fi", as both seem pretty generic.



They've been branching out for a while now, and all of the new branches suck. Pro wrestling and ghost hunter bull crap? No thanks.



Yeah, I can't wrap my mind around the wrestling thing. ECW isn't science fiction. <_<

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

MAR 18, 2009 04:12 PM

CobraR said:

MrStitches said:

ChocolateJesus said:
I've got to be the only person on the planet who likes the new logo and name. I believe that the main reasoning is that if they branch out into other forms of media, they wanted to have their own identity other than "Sci-Fi Channel", or "Sci-Fi", as both seem pretty generic.



They've been branching out for a while now, and all of the new branches suck. Pro wrestling and ghost hunter bull crap? No thanks.



Yeah, I can't wrap my mind around the wrestling thing. ECW isn't science fiction. <_<



Neither is ghost hunting. Pseudo-science is not the same thing as science fiction. Not to mention that tracy morgan hidden camera show. And didn't John Edwards used to have a show on SciFi?

StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

MAR 18, 2009 04:26 PM

They seem to be desperate to hit on a money-for-nothing reality show that fits into their theme. I have to believe that this is not the only way left to make money in television.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

MAR 18, 2009 04:42 PM

And, what exactly was wrong with "science fiction", that Harlan Ellison's suggestion of "speculative fiction" didn't cure?

PaulNikon

PaulNikon

Palm Bay, FL
February 2003

MAR 18, 2009 04:53 PM

So when I get cable again, I won't recognize it.

CobraR

CobraR

Charleston, TN
August 2006

MAR 18, 2009 05:24 PM

PaulNikon said:
So when I get cable again, I won't recognize it.



You'll still recognize the crap they air....

Pip

Pip

Framingham, MA
OLD SKOOL

MAR 18, 2009 05:35 PM

Sadly, even SciFi channel can;t get it right. They fuck it up far less, but man even they miss the point most of the time.

Pom_felo

Pom_felo

San Antonio, TX
February 2004

MAR 18, 2009 06:09 PM

Well, on the one hand, the network's focus has definitely changed since their inception. It's more honest, at least.

On the other hand, ScyFy is pretty much the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. Also, it apparently means warts or syphilis or something similar in Polish.

Roethke

Roethke

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAR 18, 2009 06:34 PM

It's actually SyFy, not ScyFy.

I thinks it's silly to try to de-nerd something which has a majority fanbase of nerds.

PaulNikon

PaulNikon

Palm Bay, FL
February 2003

MAR 18, 2009 09:46 PM

Trying not to be nerdy makes them more nerdy, right?

piggybankcowboy

piggybankcowboy

Macomb, MI
February 2009

MAR 19, 2009 01:12 PM

PaulNikon said:
Trying not to be nerdy makes them more nerdy, right?



It makes them a closet case self-loather.

ChocolateJesus

ChocolateJesus

I'm lost
January 2005

MAR 19, 2009 01:12 PM

MrStitches said:

CobraR said:

MrStitches said:

ChocolateJesus said:
I've got to be the only person on the planet who likes the new logo and name. I believe that the main reasoning is that if they branch out into other forms of media, they wanted to have their own identity other than "Sci-Fi Channel", or "Sci-Fi", as both seem pretty generic.



They've been branching out for a while now, and all of the new branches suck. Pro wrestling and ghost hunter bull crap? No thanks.



Yeah, I can't wrap my mind around the wrestling thing. ECW isn't science fiction. <_<



Neither is ghost hunting. Pseudo-science is not the same thing as science fiction. Not to mention that tracy morgan hidden camera show. And didn't John Edwards used to have a show on SciFi?



By "branching out", I meant like video games and books and what not. At least that's what one of the articles I read mentioned.

Homme

Homme

Los Angeles, CA
January 2009

MAR 19, 2009 01:14 PM

I don't care... because after Friday, I don't think I'll ever have a reason to watch "SyFy" again.

Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

MAR 19, 2009 02:05 PM

Homme said:
I don't care... because after Friday, I don't think I'll ever have a reason to watch "SyFy" again.



Truth.

I've heard rumors that "syfy" is eastern European slang for syphilis or for calling someone a shit.

ricos

ricos

USA
December 2006

MAR 19, 2009 02:32 PM

excerpts from NY Times article:

“We couldn’t own Sci Fi; it’s a genre,” said Bonnie Hammer, the former president of Sci Fi who became the president of NBC Universal Cable Entertainment and Universal Cable Productions. “But we can own Syfy.”

Ms. Hammer and her successor as Sci Fi president, Dave Howe, said they had sat through many meetings over the years at which a name change was debated.

The principal reason the idea kept coming up, Mr. Howe said, was a belief “the Sci Fi name is limiting.”

“If you ask people their default perceptions of Sci Fi, they list space, aliens and the future,” he added. “That didn’t capture the full landscape of fantasy entertainment: the paranormal, the supernatural, action and adventure, superheroes.”

That became more important as Sci Fi expanded its program offerings into those realms, Mr. Howe said, with series like “Destination Truth” and “Ghost Hunters.”

“The brand needed a little refreshing,” said Steve Mandala, executive vice president for cable ad sales at NBC Universal, who will be among those promoting Sci Fi — and Syfy — at the upfront presentation.

kinda boring branding shit but if interested here's the full article
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/business/media/16adcol.html?_r=2

RedBstrd

RedBstrd

Riverside, CA
April 2004

MAR 21, 2009 08:15 PM

Toku666 said:
I've heard rumors that "syfy" is eastern European slang for syphilis or for calling someone a shit.



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I imagine that it is pretty close in a lot of Slavic languages. My English-Czech and English-Polish dictionaries don't include the word "syphilis" for some reason.

In Russian, "syphilis" is "sifilis." If the word is part of Russian slang (as a shorter form such as "sifi"), the pronunciation would be similar to "see-fee," not "sigh-figh" despite any similarities in spelling.

Note: The Cyrillic characters that Romanize into "y" and "i" are not identical in pronunciation.

Homme

Homme

Los Angeles, CA
January 2009

MAR 22, 2009 02:16 AM

ricos said:

“We couldn’t own Sci Fi; it’s a genre,” said Bonnie Hammer, the former president of Sci Fi who became the president of NBC Universal Cable Entertainment and Universal Cable Productions. “But we can own Syfy.”

Ms. Hammer and her successor as Sci Fi president, Dave Howe, said they had sat through many meetings over the years at which a name change was debated.

The principal reason the idea kept coming up, Mr. Howe said, was a belief “the Sci Fi name is limiting.”

“If you ask people their default perceptions of Sci Fi, they list space, aliens and the future,” he added. “That didn’t capture the full landscape of fantasy entertainment: the paranormal, the supernatural, action and adventure, superheroes.”

That became more important as Sci Fi expanded its program offerings into those realms, Mr. Howe said, with series like “Destination Truth” and “Ghost Hunters.”

“The brand needed a little refreshing,” said Steve Mandala, executive vice president for cable ad sales at NBC Universal, who will be among those promoting Sci Fi — and Syfy — at the upfront presentation.



Sounds like corporate bullshit to me. Sounds like a way to break away from Science-Fiction specific program and move more into USA/TBS//TNT/etc... territory. Wedge-programing can't compete with the mainstream, and therefor, not as profitable.

Whatever... media conglomerates are awesome! puke

Might as well throw away your satellite dish and pull out your cable line. Practically anything worth watching on TV is available on the Internet at your leisure anyways.

CobraR

CobraR

Charleston, TN
August 2006

MAR 22, 2009 11:45 AM

Homme said:

ricos said:

“We couldn’t own Sci Fi; it’s a genre,” said Bonnie Hammer, the former president of Sci Fi who became the president of NBC Universal Cable Entertainment and Universal Cable Productions. “But we can own Syfy.”

Ms. Hammer and her successor as Sci Fi president, Dave Howe, said they had sat through many meetings over the years at which a name change was debated.

The principal reason the idea kept coming up, Mr. Howe said, was a belief “the Sci Fi name is limiting.”

“If you ask people their default perceptions of Sci Fi, they list space, aliens and the future,” he added. “That didn’t capture the full landscape of fantasy entertainment: the paranormal, the supernatural, action and adventure, superheroes.”

That became more important as Sci Fi expanded its program offerings into those realms, Mr. Howe said, with series like “Destination Truth” and “Ghost Hunters.”

“The brand needed a little refreshing,” said Steve Mandala, executive vice president for cable ad sales at NBC Universal, who will be among those promoting Sci Fi — and Syfy — at the upfront presentation.



Sounds like corporate bullshit to me. Sounds like a way to break away from Science-Fiction specific program and move more into USA/TBS//TNT/etc... territory. Wedge-programing can't compete with the mainstream, and therefor, not as profitable.

Whatever... media conglomerates are awesome! puke

Might as well throw away your satellite dish and pull out your cable line. Practically anything worth watching on TV is available on the Internet at your leisure anyways.



For the time being.

Broadcasting companies are starting to pull the same shit as the music industry and are keeping a deathgrip on their "property".

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