LA Pride...

Oh, I agree, but that's not at all what I said. I do like LA, and I don't think all those places suck.

I mean, what I've seen of Redondo sucks, but that's not what I was getting at.

I like this. It can probably be said of most every city too.

I've never been to San Francisco...but the Mexican Food in San Diego beats the hell out of Los Angeles. And I really liked the Mexican food in Los Angeles.

Back to the topic.

You don't go to NYC for the burritos, just as you don't go to L.A. or SF for the pizza or cheesesteaks.

stopping by zachary's in the east bay doesn't hurt, though.

I'll check them out next time I'm in town.

SF SNOBBERY ALERT:

I think Zachary's is overrated. I prefer Little Star in SF.

I'm biased, but I agree. Although there's a certain charm to taking the train to Union Station and then walking over to Olvera Street for taquitos.

and hurt my feelings. i grew up with zachary's. i'll have to try out little star when i'm back in town.

In regards to the weather I spoke of earlier, we REALLY don't have seasons that are very characterized compared to other cities. Sure there's winter and spring, etc but there are hardly deciduous trees around to indicate autumn. And when our local newscasters report a winter storm watch, it could hardly be called a storm by my experiences. Or when it's sunny and 85 degrees F outside in the middle of December, it hardly should be considered winter. Our climate, for better or for worse, is mostly moderate all year (which, I understand, is why many people live here). I only made a sarcastic joke about L.A. only having two season, and that being, fire and mudslides. It's just something I've grown bored with much like many of the neighborhoods' character, or lack thereof, people have been discussing here.

And just to clarify for others: technically speaking, places like Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, Long Beach, Pasadena, Glendale, Burbank, etc aren't part of the City of Los Angeles. However, they are part of Los Angeles County which is very big. So as we are all talking about L.A., are we speaking of just the city proper, or L.A. County? I presumed most are talking about L.A. county as I do when telling others about L.A.--in general.

L.A. isn't a pedestrian-friendly city, as one person stated, it never was. Although, they have been trying to change that. They have been trying to characterized many neighborhoods by renaming many of them and through new urban developments (especially in downtown and the valleys, which also brings in a lot of gentrification). But I remember when Los Feliz "Village" was just Los Feliz, or when "Thai Town" was just another part of Hollywood. Yet, for some reason, they didn't quite develop the kind of visible characteristics as other cities did in New York or San Francisco.

The one problem I have with the nightlife and the driving is that many late night places seem few and far between, and when most drinking establishments close at 2am, it forces people to drive to these late-night establishments, or anywhere else, while at the same time trying to discourage intoxicated driving. Public transportation can't really be relied upon and taxis are very expensive.

In regards to food, I will contend that L.A. has the best Chinese with the most options in terms of Chinese culinary styles. And this is after experiences and reviews from other Chinese immigrants in other rival cities such as San Francisco and New York. Anthony Bourdain was right about L.A. doing cheap eats very well. And some of the best eateries are in strip malls. For tacos, I love the streetside taco stands.

You don't go to NYC for the cheesesteaks, either. [/fromPhilly]

That is bad. Eck!

I could leave tomorrow and never look back.
This is my fourth city in 13 years. It ranks third out of the four. Detroit be dead last.
I think a lot of people who move here, move from their home towns so they think "this is it". Trust me, its not.